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Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:06 pm
by tmac1956
All:

I found a person who can fabricate custom mainsprings at a reasonable price. I'm rebuilding a Swiss pocket watch and couldn't find a mainspring for it, so I did the calculations and sent an email. He can do a 36" length for $35.00.

I just thought this might be helpful. You can contact him at:

twclock08@att.net

Later,
Tom

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:47 pm
by Arutha
Very useful info Tom, thanks for posting it up :)
Paul.

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:47 pm
by tmac1956
All:

I finally received the custom mainspring and thought I'd post the steps needed to get it ready for installation. Many of you've probably done this before but for me, this is a new experience.

The first thing I needed to do was to fabricate the barrel end which was of the tang hook type. I found some shim stock of the correct thickness, and snipped out a rough copy. In order to punch and file this stuff, I had to anneal it. I did that, and put some dye on it so I could see the scribed outline of the old part.
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Here's the copy next to the original before I filed it to length, added the knife edge, and punched the rivet hole.
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I selected a punch close to the original hole diameter and punched the new hole on my staking set.
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Next, I cut the custom mainspring material to the correct length. The supplier punched the arbor end for me, so I didn't have to deal with that.
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Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:55 pm
by tmac1956
continued...

Next, I annealed both mainspring ends so that I could more easily fabricate the tang/hook end and bend the barrel arbor end.
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Again, using my staking set, I punched the rivet hole in the tang/hook end.
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Due to the ease of fabricating and riveting, I decided to start off using brass to make the rivet.
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This is probably the smallest part I've ever made. Here's the finished rivet.
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Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:03 pm
by tmac1956
continued...

So as to allow more area into which the riveted material could seat, I beveled the mainspring tang/end hole.
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I assembled the rivet into the mainspring and then added the tang. On my staking set, I started the riveting process using a tiny concave punch, worked out to one a little larger, then another a little larger, before finishing it off with a flat punch. The following show the almost finished product. I'll probably file of the larger rivet head as it appears a little thick. It might not matter, but my OCD allows for nothing less. ;)
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I know this is pretty basic stuff, but I thought I'd share for those who haven't done this yet.

Thanks,
Tom

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:22 pm
by jim1228
Brilliant job Tom

Jim

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:37 pm
by tmac1956
Jim:

Thanks... but I didn't post the failures. ;)

Later,
Tom

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:23 pm
by gerene
Well done Tom. Thanks for the pictures, it gives me a nice overview of how to do it and I will certainly get back to it when need arises!

Jan

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:41 pm
by Arutha
Great work Tom :)
Paul

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:47 pm
by tmac1956
All:

Thanks for the nice comments, but David Pierce gave me the idea about machining the rivet with a flat base. I tried it once on my own but my attempt wound up being skewed side ways and misaligned. After talking to him, I had a good handle on the process which worked out pretty well in the end. Well, that's one repair that I can stick into my knowledge base.

Later,
Tom,

Re: Custom mainsrpings...

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:21 pm
by tmac1956
All:

Just to follow-up... I reassembled the watch with the new mainspring installed. It's running like a champ. I highly recommend this supplier for springs that are unattainable elsewhere.

Thanks!
Tom